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‘Teen Wolf’ With Bill Simmons and Kyle Brandt

August 6, 2020 · Teen Wolf (1985) · Comedy · Fantasy · Romance · 1:27:16

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Most Rewatchable Scene

Bill Simmons▶ 25:01Six scenes: 1) Scott buying beer with red eyes + Stiles van surfing, 2) Scott turning into wolf at home with dad reveal, 3) Teen Wolf's first basketball game transformation and aftermath, 4) Coach Finstock's locker room speech with three rules, 5) Prom scene with Scott getting sucker punched, 6) Final basketball game
Kyle Brandt▶ 26:26Agrees with and enthusiastically discusses another host's picks, particularly praising the Stiles scenes and Coach Finstock's dialogue, but doesn't offer additional specific scenes

What's Aged the Worst

Bill Simmons▶ 45:13Bad basketball edits, wolf special effects, ages of lead actors looking too old for high school, lack of Black representation except for stereotypical breakdancing scene, unclear party scene activities, 80s trope of choosing plain girl over hot girl, and inappropriate suicide-themed song lyrics in 'Win in the End'
Kyle Brandt▶ 45:52Wolf transformation scene ripping off The Terminator, actors looking too old for high school roles, problematic breakdancing scene with only Black character, and terrible soundtrack lacking quality 80s music compared to other films of the era

Casting What-Ifs

Bill Simmons▶ 52:48James Hampton — James Hampton (who played Mr. Howard) originally read for Coach Finstock but Fox suggested he read for the father role instead

Joey Pants Award

Bill Simmons▶ 53:38James Hampton — The guy who played Professor Nicholson on 90210 (initially suggested as dark horse pick, then agreed to give it to Chubby after another host's counter-argument)
Kyle Brandt▶ 53:59Mark Holton — Chubby (Francis Buxton from Pee Wee's Big Adventure and the 'Enrico Palazzo' guy from The Naked Gun)

Half-Assed Internet Research

Bill Simmons▶ 58:20Shared multiple trivia facts including Michael J. Fox's body double Jeff Glosser, conflicting reports about Fox hating the movie, Mike Piazza internet hoax, Jerry Levine getting recognized as Styles, Mark Arnold's soap opera contract, Fox's jersey selling for $30,000, Playboy playmate in party scene, scrapped Johnny Carson scene, and Styles' five t-shirt slogans
Kyle Brandt▶ 58:29Added details about Jeff Glosser being from Loyola Marymount during pre-Hank Gathers era, compared the Mike Piazza hoax to other celebrity urban legends like Paul from Wonder Years being Marilyn Manson

Apex Mountain

Bill Simmons▶ 1:02:16Back to the Future — Back to the Future for Michael J. Fox, not Teen Wolf
Bill Simmons▶ 1:02:41Doug Savant — Apex mountain for every other cast member except Doug Savant (Melrose Place/Desperate Housewives), van surfing, and werewolves (early 1980s run including Thriller video)
Kyle Brandt▶ 1:02:18Back to the Future — Back to the Future for Michael J. Fox
Kyle Brandt▶ 1:04:20Twilight — Twilight series for werewolves, countering the early 1980s argument

Best Quote

Bill Simmons▶ 1:12:21Mick saying 'I've handled your kind before. Your mama used to steal chickens out of the backyard until I blew her head off with a shotgun.'
Kyle Brandt▶ 1:12:37The same Mick quote - calls it 'an all-time antagonizing line' and 'a really incendiary piece of dialogue'

Probably Unanswerable Questions

Bill Simmons▶ 1:16:36Where does werewolf hair go during transformations; doesn't think Mick shot Scott's mom because werewolf gene comes from dad's side; Teen Wolf transformation would be biggest sports movie moment ever; Baron Davis and Russ Westbrook resemble Teen Wolf's game; would use Teen Wolf like Gilbert Arenas as hybrid point guard on all-time movie team
Kyle Brandt▶ 1:14:42What happens to the Beavers after the regional final; where does the hair go during werewolf transformations; whether Mick shot Scott's mom; Teen Wolf would be the biggest 'what the fuck' sports movie moment; Russ Westbrook most resembles Teen Wolf's playing style; Teen Wolf belongs on all-time movie basketball starting five as hybrid guard

Who Won the Movie

Bill Simmons▶ 1:25:27Jerry Levine — Agrees with Jerry Levine/Styles, citing that a Tampa Bay player switching his first name to Styles cemented it
Kyle Brandt▶ 1:25:09Jerry Levine — Jerry Levine as Styles - the classy, wacky best friend with a heart who everyone remembers

Movies Referenced (31)

Back to the Future (1985)

12 mentions · Bill Simmons, Kyle Brandt▶ 7:22IMDb ↗Lb ↗

Can't Buy Me Love (1987)

4 mentions · Bill Simmons, Kyle Brandt▶ 37:05IMDb ↗Lb ↗

Twilight (2008)

4 mentions · Bill Simmons, Kyle Brandt▶ 1:04:31IMDb ↗Lb ↗

Rocky (1976)

3 mentions · Bill Simmons, Kyle Brandt▶ 12:42IMDb ↗Lb ↗

Rocky IV (1985)

3 mentions · Bill Simmons, Kyle Brandt▶ 18:23IMDb ↗Lb ↗

Weird Science (1985)

3 mentions · Kyle Brandt, Bill Simmons▶ 37:08IMDb ↗Lb ↗

Just One of the Guys (1985)

2 mentions · Bill Simmons▶ 17:14IMDb ↗Lb ↗

Major League (1989)

2 mentions · Kyle Brandt, Bill Simmons▶ 8:09IMDb ↗Lb ↗

Sucker Punch (2011)

2 mentions · Bill Simmons▶ 33:03IMDb ↗Lb ↗

Top Gun (1986)

2 mentions · Bill Simmons, Kyle Brandt▶ 19:52IMDb ↗Lb ↗

Air Bud (1997)

1 mentions · Kyle Brandt▶ 1:20:00IMDb ↗Lb ↗

American History X (1998)

1 mentions · Kyle Brandt▶ 15:44IMDb ↗Lb ↗

Directors Referenced (7)

Billy Blanks

5 mentions · Kyle Brandt, Bill Simmons · Known for The Last Boy Scout, Jack and Jill, Kiss the Girls▶ 31:11IMDb ↗Lb ↗

Paul Thomas Anderson

2 mentions · Bill Simmons, Kyle Brandt · Known for Punch-Drunk Love, Licorice Pizza, There Will Be Blood▶ 40:32IMDb ↗Lb ↗

Rod Daniel

2 mentions · Bill Simmons · Known for Teen Wolf▶ 10:46IMDb ↗Lb ↗

Baron Davis

1 mentions · Bill Simmons · Known for That's My Boy▶ 1:20:41IMDb ↗Lb ↗

Jarrod Allies

1 mentions · Bill Simmons▶ 1:19:29IMDb ↗Lb ↗

Steve Nash

1 mentions · Bill Simmons▶ 5:31IMDb ↗Lb ↗

Steven Spielberg

1 mentions · Kyle Brandt · Known for Schindler's List, E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial, Saving Private Ryan▶ 1:02:28IMDb ↗Lb ↗

Actors Referenced (60)

Michael J. Fox

34 mentions · Bill Simmons, Kyle Brandt · Known for Back to the Future, Back to the Future Part II▶ 0:34IMDb ↗Lb ↗

Mark Arnold

8 mentions · Bill Simmons, Kyle Brandt · Known for Teen Wolf, Blade Runner 2049▶ 18:08IMDb ↗Lb ↗

Kobe Bryant

7 mentions · Bill Simmons, Kyle Brandt · Known for Daddy's Home▶ 1:52IMDb ↗Lb ↗

Jerry Levine

6 mentions · Bill Simmons, Kyle Brandt · Known for Teen Wolf, Born on the Fourth of July, Wag the Dog▶ 46:23IMDb ↗Lb ↗

Eric Stoltz

5 mentions · Kyle Brandt · Known for Pulp Fiction, The Butterfly Effect▶ 57:50IMDb ↗Lb ↗

Doug Savant

4 mentions · Bill Simmons▶ 10:16IMDb ↗Lb ↗

Kelly Preston

4 mentions · Bill Simmons, Kyle Brandt · Known for Battlefield Earth, The Cat in the Hat, Sky High▶ 13:11IMDb ↗Lb ↗

Melrose

4 mentions · Bill Simmons▶ 10:16IMDb ↗Lb ↗

Bernard King

3 mentions · Bill Simmons▶ 1:22:44IMDb ↗Lb ↗

Bobby Knight

3 mentions · Bill Simmons, Kyle Brandt · Known for Anger Management, Blue Chips, Hoop Dreams▶ 32:45IMDb ↗Lb ↗

Ed McMahon

3 mentions · Bill Simmons▶ 15:51IMDb ↗Lb ↗

Huey Lewis

3 mentions · Kyle Brandt, Bill Simmons · Known for Back to the Future▶ 59:58IMDb ↗Lb ↗

Writers Referenced (2)

Stiles White

17 mentions · Bill Simmons, Kyle Brandt · Known for Knowing▶ 25:38IMDb ↗Lb ↗

Preston Shuttlesworth

1 mentions · Kyle Brandt · Known for Civil War▶ 1:22:09IMDb ↗Lb ↗