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The Three-'Heat' With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Michael Mann

November 2, 2021 · Heat (1995) · Action · Crime · Drama · 1:35:47

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Most Rewatchable Scene

Bill Simmons▶ 36:02Lists multiple rewatchable scenes including first robbery, Big Boys diner eating, Neil meeting first time, Neil's gang debates heist, diner scene, bank robbery, Vincent's crew gets caught, Neil kills Wayne Grow. Focuses discussion on Big Boys diner scene where Wayne Grow escapes
Chris Ryan▶ 40:02Focuses on the Neil and Edie first meeting scene, particularly praising Amy Brenneman's facial expression when Neil scoots over one seat, describing it as 'so perfect' in conveying multiple emotions without dialogue
Michael Mann▶ 37:17Discusses the Big Boys diner scene in detail, emphasizing how it establishes the crew as 'terminal' and 'serious heavy duty crew' willing to kill without hesitation. Also discusses Neil and Edie's first meeting scene extensively

Casting What-Ifs

Bill Simmons▶ 1:07:52Keanu Reeves — Goes through various casting rumors: Keanu Reeves for Chris (debunked), Michael Madsen for Michael (debunked), Ted Levine switching roles (likely false), James Caan lamenting not being in Heat
Michael Mann▶ 1:08:19Michael Madsen — Debunks multiple casting rumors - confirms Val Kilmer was always cast as Chris, Michael Madsen was only considered among many actors, doesn't recall Ted Levine role switching, and says James Caan was never really an option despite their friendship

Joey Pants Award

Bill Simmons▶ 1:10:21Discusses multiple character actors from the film including Tom Noonan, Brian Libby, Ted Levine, and Wes Studi, but doesn't pick a specific winner
Michael Mann▶ 1:10:47Tom Noonan — Focuses on Tom Noonan as Kelso, praising his authenticity and noting their previous collaboration in Manhunter

Overacting Award

Bill Simmons▶ 1:12:15Al Pacino — Agrees with Pacino/Vincent Hanna pick and explains the category is for when actors 'dial it up' even if done intentionally
Chris Ryan▶ 1:12:18Al Pacino — Al Pacino as Vincent Hanna - acknowledges he could run through any number of Vincent Hanna moments but defends that Pacino isn't really overacting, just dialing it up for a reason

Apex Mountain

Michael Mann▶ 1:20:24Heat — Multiple moments in Heat where everything came together with harmony, plus scenes in Ali with Michael T. Williamson as Don King

Picking Nits

Bill Simmons▶ 1:22:52Neil and crew going to fancy dinner right after big heist - why would disciplined Neil want to be seen with crew in public so soon after?
Bill Simmons▶ 1:25:40Cops not researching the random guy who stares at Ashley Jenner on balcony for 10 seconds then drives off
Bill Simmons▶ 1:25:55Why did Edie like Neil? He was rude in the diner - what attracted her to him?
Chris Ryan▶ 1:21:44Does Mann cheat LA traffic/geography - like Neil driving past refineries when heading to Hollywood hills?
Chris Ryan▶ 1:24:44What does Chris say to guys on basketball court - 'anywhere to rent?' or 'buy some bread?'

Probably Unanswerable Questions

Bill Simmons▶ 1:31:54Heat 2 sequel concept: Val Kilmer's son Dominic gets out of prison at age 23, seeks revenge against Neil's previously unknown son
Michael Mann▶ 1:31:38Heat novel that spans 1988-1998, serving as both prequel and sequel to the movie

Who Won the Movie

Bill Simmons▶ 1:32:15Michael Mann — Michael Mann - described as an artist movie from beginning to end, culmination of a 15 year journey
Chris Ryan▶ 1:32:15Michael Mann — Michael Mann - agreed with another host's assessment from previous episode

Movies Referenced (8)

Miami Vice (2006)

3 mentions · Bill Simmons▶ 1:32:25IMDb ↗Lb ↗

Fargo (1996)

2 mentions · Bill Simmons▶ 1:06:10IMDb ↗Lb ↗

Predators (2010)

2 mentions · Michael Mann▶ 53:05IMDb ↗Lb ↗

Straight Time (1978)

2 mentions · Michael Mann▶ 6:06IMDb ↗Lb ↗

Casino (1995)

1 mentions · Bill Simmons▶ 28:59IMDb ↗Lb ↗

Public Enemies (2009)

1 mentions · Michael Mann▶ 1:23:33IMDb ↗Lb ↗

The Godfather (1972)

1 mentions · Bill Simmons▶ 50:37IMDb ↗Lb ↗

The Prestige (2006)

1 mentions · Bill Simmons▶ 1:31IMDb ↗Lb ↗

Directors Referenced (3)

Walter Hill

5 mentions · Michael Mann, Chris Ryan, Bill Simmons · Known for 48 Hrs., Aliens▶ 7:40IMDb ↗Lb ↗

Art Linson

2 mentions · Michael Mann · Known for Into the Wild, Fight Club, The Untouchables▶ 8:37IMDb ↗Lb ↗

Elliot Goldenthal

1 mentions · Michael Mann▶ 1:05:41IMDb ↗Lb ↗

Actors Referenced (39)

Al Pacino

30 mentions · Michael Mann, Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan · Known for Dog Day Afternoon, The Godfather▶ 2:42IMDb ↗Lb ↗

Val Kilmer

15 mentions · Michael Mann, Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan · Known for The Doors, The Saint, Kiss Kiss Bang Bang▶ 2:42IMDb ↗Lb ↗

Robert De Niro

12 mentions · Bill Simmons, Michael Mann · Known for Cape Fear, Raging Bull, Taxi Driver▶ 2:42IMDb ↗Lb ↗

Vincent Hanna

9 mentions · Chris Ryan, Bill Simmons, Michael Mann▶ 14:47IMDb ↗Lb ↗

Tom Noonan

5 mentions · Michael Mann, Bill Simmons▶ 1:10:21IMDb ↗Lb ↗

James Caan

4 mentions · Bill Simmons, Michael Mann, Chris Ryan · Known for Thief, Rollerball, Misery▶ 39:20IMDb ↗Lb ↗

Kevin Gage

4 mentions · Michael Mann, Bill Simmons · Known for Heat, Con Air▶ 38:09IMDb ↗Lb ↗

Ted Levine

4 mentions · Bill Simmons, Michael Mann · Known for The Silence of the Lambs, Shutter Island, Heat▶ 1:08:49IMDb ↗Lb ↗

Kate Winslet

3 mentions · Michael Mann, Bill Simmons · Known for Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind, Revolutionary Road, Titanic▶ 45:05IMDb ↗Lb ↗

Miguel Pinero

3 mentions · Michael Mann▶ 1:33:27IMDb ↗Lb ↗

Will Smith

3 mentions · Michael Mann · Known for Men in Black, I Am Legend▶ 38:15IMDb ↗Lb ↗

Amy Brenneman

2 mentions · Chris Ryan · Known for Heat▶ 40:06IMDb ↗Lb ↗

Writers Referenced (1)

Attica Locke

1 mentions · Michael Mann▶ 1:33:36IMDb ↗Lb ↗