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‘Halloween 4’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan

October 29, 2024 · Halloween 4: The Return of Michael Myers (1988) · Horror · Thriller · 1:36:40

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Most Rewatchable Scene

Bill Simmons▶ 28:53Opening scene/credits, transferring dangerous patient scene, Jamie's nightmare with multiple Myers being pulled under bed, gas station scene with bandaged Michael, Loomis warning the sheriff, Myers killing spree scenes
Chris Ryan▶ 29:00Opening scene (praising director Dwight H. Little's research on Halloween traditions), trick-or-treating night when Jamie gets separated and Rachel sees Brady with Kelly
Van Lathan▶ 30:41Transferring patient scene (commenting on gross negligence), Rachel's storyline where she loses Jamie and finds Brady with another girl

Hall of Fame Plaque

Bill Simmons▶ 39:15Kathleen Kinmont (the naughty white girl character) for the Van Lathan Naughty White Girl Hall of Fame
Van Lathan▶ 43:55Agrees with inducting Kathleen Kinmont into his Naughty White Girl Hall of Fame

Den of Thieves Benihana Award

Bill Simmons▶ 48:43Abandoned gas stations in horror movies
Chris Ryan▶ 48:47The gas station location with attached bar and Abe Lincoln pictures in Illinois
Van Lathan▶ 48:55Abandoned or downtrodden asylums in horror movies

Big Kahuna Burger Award

Bill Simmons▶ 49:33The sheriff's daughter making six giant cups of coffee before she meets her demise
Van Lathan▶ 50:30Agreed with Bill's pick about the coffee scene, interpreting it as a statement about the sheriff's daughter being a traditional wife who takes care of people

Butch's Girlfriend Award

Bill Simmons▶ 52:45The actor playing Michael Myers/The Shape - not athletic enough, wearing padding, moves like a mummy; also mentions the bad mask that changes throughout the movie
Chris Ryan▶ 51:45Dr. Hoffman character - introduced as antagonistic to Loomis but then abandoned midway through the movie
Van Lathan▶ 52:08Dr. Loomis - calls him useless and blames him for everything that happens

What's Aged the Worst

Bill Simmons▶ 56:58Multiple issues: missing a scene where Myers kills the Myers impersonators, the blonde wig Myers in schoolhouse, Rachel losing all eight kids trick-or-treating, and the inconsistent makeup/scarring on Loomis throughout the film
Chris Ryan▶ 56:13The inconsistency of whether people know who Michael Myers is - some kids dress up as him but Brady doesn't know who he is
Van Lathan▶ 55:58Jamie Lee Curtis not being in the movie - her absence is by far what's aged the worst since the character comes back for a new generation of fans

Overacting Award

Bill Simmons▶ 1:00:21Donald Pleasence — Dr. Loomis, but also mentions the crazy religious guy who picks him up hitchhiking
Chris Ryan▶ 1:00:32The religious hitchhiking guy (who didn't know his lines)
Van Lathan▶ 1:00:34Agrees the religious guy is throwing 150 every time he talks but doesn't give explicit pick

Movies Referenced (13)

Friday the 13th (1980)

6 mentions · Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, Van Lathan▶ 5:36IMDb ↗Lb ↗

Scream (1996)

4 mentions · Chris Ryan, Bill Simmons, Van Lathan▶ 7:03IMDb ↗Lb ↗

Dazed and Confused (1993)

2 mentions · Bill Simmons▶ 21:19IMDb ↗Lb ↗

Home Alone (1990)

2 mentions · Bill Simmons▶ 16:53IMDb ↗Lb ↗

Jaws (1975)

2 mentions · Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan▶ 17:06IMDb ↗Lb ↗

Batman Returns (1992)

1 mentions · Van Lathan▶ 52:04IMDb ↗Lb ↗

Child's Play (1988)

1 mentions · Chris Ryan▶ 5:40IMDb ↗Lb ↗

Den of Thieves (2018)

1 mentions · Bill Simmons▶ 48:40IMDb ↗Lb ↗

It's a Wonderful Life (1946)

1 mentions · Van Lathan▶ 17:00IMDb ↗Lb ↗

Shrek (2001)

1 mentions · Van Lathan▶ 52:04IMDb ↗Lb ↗

The Equalizer (2014)

1 mentions · Van Lathan▶ 28:22IMDb ↗Lb ↗

The Mist (2007)

1 mentions · Chris Ryan▶ 45:53IMDb ↗Lb ↗

Directors Referenced (4)

John Carpenter

6 mentions · Chris Ryan, Van Lathan, Bill Simmons · Known for Dark Star, Halloween▶ 7:33IMDb ↗Lb ↗

Rob Zombie

2 mentions · Chris Ryan, Bill Simmons▶ 0:02IMDb ↗Lb ↗

Alan Myerson

1 mentions · Bill Simmons▶ 9:45IMDb ↗Lb ↗

David Gordon Green

1 mentions · Van Lathan▶ 45:21IMDb ↗Lb ↗

Actors Referenced (19)

Jamie Lee Curtis

5 mentions · Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan · Known for True Lies, Everything Everywhere All at Once▶ 16:29IMDb ↗Lb ↗

Aaron Donald

4 mentions · Van Lathan, Chris Ryan, Bill Simmons▶ 8:43IMDb ↗Lb ↗

Lorenzo Lamas

4 mentions · Bill Simmons · Known for Grease▶ 41:25IMDb ↗Lb ↗

LL Cool J

2 mentions · Chris Ryan, Bill Simmons · Known for Deep Blue Sea▶ 0:14IMDb ↗Lb ↗

Michelle Williams

2 mentions · Bill Simmons · Known for Blue Valentine, My Week with Marilyn, Manchester by the Sea▶ 24:06IMDb ↗Lb ↗

Vincent Chase

2 mentions · Van Lathan, Bill Simmons▶ 8:18IMDb ↗Lb ↗

Adam Vanner

1 mentions · Bill Simmons · Known for The Meg, World War Z▶ 2:36IMDb ↗Lb ↗

Busta Rhymes

1 mentions · Van Lathan▶ 23:54IMDb ↗Lb ↗

Crazy Town

1 mentions · Chris Ryan · Known for Something's Gotta Give, Saving Silverman, Orange County▶ 1:01:05IMDb ↗Lb ↗

Erica Vigilante

1 mentions · Bill Simmons · Known for Tenet, Venom▶ 44:06IMDb ↗Lb ↗

Jamie Lee

1 mentions · Bill Simmons · Known for Cold Mountain▶ 56:08IMDb ↗Lb ↗

Judd Nelson

1 mentions · Bill Simmons · Known for The Breakfast Club, St. Elmo's Fire▶ 1:00:43IMDb ↗Lb ↗

Writers Referenced (1)

Roger Ebert

2 mentions · Bill Simmons▶ 26:16IMDb ↗Lb ↗

Cinematographers Referenced (1)

Jeff Mart

1 mentions · Chris Ryan · Known for Proof of Life, Hard Target▶ 43:21IMDb ↗Lb ↗